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Outsmart a Narcissist: A Proven 4-Step Plan to Take Your Power Back | Mel Robbins Podcast

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Order your copy of The Let Them Theory 👉 👈 The #1 Best Selling Book of 2025 🔥 Discover how much power you truly have. It all begins with two simple words. Let Them.

Is it possible to be around narcissistic people and not lose your power? Especially when it's your mom, dad, ex, or boss who’s acting toxic?

Today, Mel is joined by Rebecca Zung, an expert on narcissism and a globally recognized high-conflict negotiator. Rebecca is also a top-ranked trial lawyer who has studied narcissism so that she could win against them in the courtroom. She’s written the playbook, SLAY the Bully: How to Negotiate with A Narcissist and Win.

She is here to make the case that you CAN stay in power no matter how toxic the people are around you. And by following her 4-part plan, you can even win when dealing with narcissism.

In this conversation, Rebecca discusses topics like:

Narcissism: what is it?

The 3 types of #narcissism

The link between narcissism and divorce

The exact phrases that can change the dynamic between you and a narcissist

The top 3 sentences to disarm a narcissist without causing rage

Why “cutting off” a narcissist won’t work

The physical symptoms you can have when dealing with a narcissist

Why being “the victim” is keeping you trapped

What happens in a narcissistic brain in childhood that flips a switch

The tie between trauma and narcissism

What the 4 non-verbal triggers for any narcissist are

Why a narcissist is just an 8-year-old throwing a tantrum

The reason why a narcissist actually fears you

The definition of love bombing and why it’s so addictive

What the 3 phases of a narcissistic relationship are

How you can be physiologically addicted to a ‘love bomber’ (it’s as addictive as cocaine)

What your 3 options are in a relationship with a narcissist

What those passive-aggressive or back-handed comments mean to a narcissist

What triangulation is, and how to protect yourself

The biggest myth about narcissists

The real reason why narcissists string you along

The 4-step process to getting your power back from a narcissist

The $2M apology

What to do when a narcissist is raging at you

The 3 things to stop doing now in a narcissistic relationship

How to respond to an accusatory email at work

What you need to know about negotiating with a narcissist

Why saying “I’m anticipating…” disarms any narcissist

The first boundary you need to create with a narcissist

What to look for as signs that you are dating, engaged to, or married to a narcissist

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