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1:08Now PlayingJonathan Van Ness got emotional Monday during an episode of Dax Shepard’s “Armchair Expert” podcast as the pair launched into an unexpected and passionate debate about transgender kids.
The “Queer Eye” star, 36, and the “Employee of the Month” actor, 48, started the nearly two-hour episode with pleasantries and the expectation that Van Ness, who is nonbinary and uses they/he/she pronouns, would discuss their own podcast, “Getting Curious.”
But became tense when Shepard said it was “insane” that President Joe Biden is the country’s “best option.”
Then, the duo clashed over whether The New York Times should be considered a left-leaning newspaper.
Van Ness argued it’s not because of recent articles about gender-affirming care that some readers interpreted as “anti-trans.”
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