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Trump’s Clashing Goals: More Housing, Fewer Immigrants
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36:05Now PlayingTo address the United States’ acute housing shortage, Congress recently passed a landmark piece of legislation designed to encourage the construction of new homes.
The problem is that President Trump’s crackdown on immigration has taken aim at the work force required to build those homes.
Ronda Kaysen, who covers housing for The New York Times, explains how the U.S. housing industry became so dependent on immigrant labor.
GuestRonda Kaysen () , a real estate reporter for The New York Times who covers the intersection of housing and society.
Background reading:
• Where did all the Americanborn roofers go () ?
• Here’s what is in the housing bill () that just became law.
Photo: Philip Cheung for The New York Times
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