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A Consequential Supreme Court Term Begins With a Conversion Therapy Case

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Warning: this episode contains mentions of suicide.

In one of the first cases of the Supreme Court’s new term, the justices considered whether to strike down a ban on conversion therapy, the contentious practice that aims to change a young person’s sexual orientation.

Ann E. Marimow, Supreme Court correspondent for The New York Times, talks us through the case.

GuestAnn E. Marimow () , who covers the Supreme Court for The New York Times from Washington.

Background reading:

• Read the main points of the conversion therapy argument () at the Supreme Court.

• The case considering the Colorado law will have implications for more than 20 states () with similar bans.

Photo: Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images

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