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Can Trump Force Blue Cities to Cooperate With ICE?
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February 2, 2026
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32:34Now PlayingTom Homan, President Trump’s border czar, traveled to Minneapolis a few days ago with a message: the faster local officials cooperate with federal immigration agents, the faster those agents will leave.
Hamed Aleaziz and Ernesto Londoño, New York Times reporters, explain why that kind of cooperation is so difficult to pull off.
Guest:
• Hamed Aleaziz () , who covers the Department of Homeland Security and immigration policy in the United States for The New York Times.
• Ernesto Londoño () , a reporter for The New York Times based in Minnesota.
Background reading:
• Can Mr. Homan deescalate tensions () in Minnesota?
• Minneapolis police officers caught between the Trump administration and city residents face difficult choices () .
Photo: Jamie Kelter Davis for The New York Times
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