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Dana White, Donald Trump and the Rise of Cage-Match Politics

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January 2, 2025

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Over the past five years, one sports league has gained popularity faster than any other: Ultimate Fighting Championship, or U.F.C.

Matt Flegenheimer, a correspondent for The Times, discusses the man behind the league and how his longtime friendship with President-elect Donald J. Trump has transformed what once was a fringe sport into a culture and political powerhouse.

GuestMatt Flegenheimer () , a correspondent at The New York Times who focuses on indepth profiles of powerful figures.

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• Dana White, the U.F.C.’s chief executive, has shot to the peak of Trumpera culture and political influence () . What does he want?

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Ultimate Fighting ChampionshipUFC Matt FlegenheimerThe TimesPresident-elect Donald J TrumpGuest Matt FlegenheimerThe New York TimesDana WhiteApple Podcasts

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