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Exporting America’s Immigration Problem

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February 24, 2025

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Warning: This episode contains mentions of suicide.

Since President Trump took office, his plan to deport millions of undocumented people has kept running into barriers. That has forced the White House to come up with ever more creative, and controversial, tactics.

The Times journalists Julie Turkewitz and Hamed Aleaziz explain why some migrants are being held in a hotel in Panama.

Guest:

• Julie Turkewitz () , the Andes bureau chief for The New York Times, based in Bogotá, Colombia. Her recent work has focused on migration.

• Hamed Aleaziz () , who covers the Department of Homeland Security and immigration policy in the United States for The New York Times.

Background reading:

• As President Trump “exports” deportees, hundreds have been trapped in a hotel in Panama () .

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