Harvard Is Trying to Resist Trump. It Might Not Be Working.

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For Harvard students, this year’s graduation ceremony comes amid an intense standoff between one of America’s most prestigious universities and the United States government.

Michael S. Schmidt, an investigative reporter for The Times, explains how the conflict escalated and what it reveals about how far the administration will go to fulfill its agenda.

GuestMichael S. Schmidt () , an investigative reporter for The New York Times, covering Washington.

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• Harvard leaders see only bad outcomes ahead () as they battle President Trump.

• The Trump administration says it is halting Harvard’s ability to enroll international students () .

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