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‘I Felt Ashamed.’ Why One Lawyer Resigned When His Firm Caved to Trump
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35:50Now PlayingOver the past few weeks, President Trump has used executive orders to wage war on law firms, specifically targeting those whose lawyers have investigated or sued him, or represented his enemies in court.
Michael Barbaro speaks to Thomas Sipp, a lawyer who chose to quit after his firm, Skadden, negotiated a deal to placate the president.
Guest: Thomas Sipp, a lawyer who left his firm after they negotiated a deal with Mr. Trump.
Background reading:
• Read about how, Paul Weiss, a major democratic law firm, ended up bowing to Mr. Trump () .
• Ever since the elite law firms Skadden and Paul Weiss reached deals with the Trump administration, top partners have closed ranks () in support of the agreements.
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