On the Ballot: An Immigration System Most Americans Never Wanted

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October 29, 2024

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If Donald J. Trump wins next week’s election, it will be in large part because voters embraced his message that the U.S. immigration system is broken.

David Leonhardt, a senior writer at The New York Times, tells the surprising story of how that system came to be.

GuestDavid Leonhardt () , a senior writer at The New York Times who runs The Morning () .

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• Whoever wins the election, seeking asylum in the United States may never be the same () .

• For people fleeing war, the U.S. immigration fight has reallife consequences () .

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On the BallotIf Donald J TrumpDavid LeonhardtThe New York TimesGuest David LeonhardtThe MorningUnited StatesApple Podcasts

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