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Pope Francis Dies at 88, and Another Hegseth Signal Chat

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April 21, 2025

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Plus, million-dollar empty lots in the Palisades.

On Today’s Episode:

Pope Francis Dies at 88 () , by Jason Horowitz

Hegseth Said to Have Shared Attack Details in Second Signal Chat () , by Greg Jaffe, Eric Schmitt and Maggie Haberman

Democrats Land in El Salvador, Seeking Release of Maryland Resident () , by Robert Jimison and Annie Correal

An Urgent Supreme Court Order Protecting Migrants Was Built for Speed () , by Adam Liptak

Millions of Student Loan Borrowers Are Behind on Payments () , by Stacy Cowley

The Next Stage of Rebuilding the Palisades Is HereBurned Lots for Sale () , by Jesus Jiménez

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Jason Horowitz Hegseth SaidHave Shared Attack DetailsSecond Signal ChatGreg Jaffe Eric SchmittMaggie Haberman Democrats LandEl Salvador Seeking ReleaseMaryland ResidentRobert Jimison

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