The Fight at the Center of the Government Shutdown
October 2, 2025
33,569
404
61
1.39%
Search the Record
IndexedEvery word spoken in this episode is indexed. Type any phrase to jump straight to the moment it was said.
Type any word or phrase that may have been spoken. Click a result to seek the player to that exact moment.
Try a name, a topic, or a quoted line
New York Times Podcasts Episodes Around October 2, 2025
See what was published immediately before and after this episode.
21:55Now PlayingThe Fight at the Center of the Government Shutdown
YouTube Description
as posted by the channelAs the U.S. government shutdown enters its second day, Democrats are trying to underline that the growing political fight is all about the rising cost of health care.
The New York Times journalists Margot Sanger-Katz and Shane Goldmacher explain why the Democrats are betting on this strategy and who is to blame for the impasse.
Guest:
• Margot SangerKatz () , a reporter for The New York Times who covers health care policy and government spending.
• Shane Goldmacher () , a national political correspondent for The New York Times.
Background reading:
• The Trump administration forged ahead with plans to conduct mass layoffs () as the fiscal standoff appeared to intensify.
• President Trump has made lowering health care costs a key priority, even as Democrats warn that those costs will skyrocket () .
For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily () . Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.
Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts () or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.
Guests & Subjects Covered
Sentinel Indexing in Progress
Metadata and chapters are available. Claim extraction for this episode is pending.
All video content is delivered via YouTube embedded players in accordance with the YouTube Terms of Service. Sentinel provides research tools that promote discovery and accountability across political media.









