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38:55Now PlayingThis week on the show, Michelle Goldberg joins Michelle and Ross to debate the gambles or gains Kamala Harris has made by picking Gov. Tim Walz of Minnesota as her running mate. They also discuss the ways the Trump-Vance ticket could recalibrate to regain their lead. Plus, Goldberg is sunny on a new show you probably haven’t heard of.
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Recommended in this episode:
• Don’t Listen to the Right. The Kamalanomenon Is Real. () by Michelle Goldberg
• The Focus Group Podcast episode “Kamala Needs a DEI Pick (Straight White Dude) () ” with Sarah Longwell
• Sunny () from Apple TV+
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