Trump Sent Them to a Notorious Prison. Torture Followed.

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In March, the U.S. government sent more than 200 Venezuelan men to a maximum-security prison in El Salvador. Over four months, the men said they endured physical, mental and sexual abuse.

Julie Turkewitz, the Andes bureau chief at The New York Times, interviewed 40 of these prisoners. She explains what she found out about this part of President Trump’s program of mass deportation.

GuestJulie Turkewitz () , the Andes bureau chief for The New York Times, based in Bogotá, Colombia.

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• “You are all terrorists”four months in a Salvadoran prison () .

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