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Why Pritzker Is Rising and Buttigieg Is Slipping in the "8 for '28" Dem Nomination Rankings

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January 13, 2026

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Mark kicks off today’s episode with the January return of his signature “8 for ’28” reported monologue, revealing how the Democratic field is already shifting just months into the invisible primary. He walks through the latest shakeups in his rankings, why Gavin Newsom and Josh Shapiro remain firmly at the top, which candidates are gaining ground, and why others are slipping. Mark also lays out the biggest unanswered questions facing each contender — from fundraising and coalition-building to electability — and explains the tests he believes will determine who can actually win the Democratic presidential nomination in 2028.

Then Democratic strategists Karen Skelton and Patti Solis Doyle weigh in, offering their candid assessments of the field. They debate who truly belongs in the top tier, whether Pete Buttigieg has hit a ceiling, why Kamala Harris’s path back may be narrower than it appears, and whether 2028 could finally be Rahm Emanuel’s moment. The conversation also explores AOC’s upside, Ro Khanna’s recent surge of attention, and which candidates Democrats are still watching closely as the race begins to take shape.

The episode also features an in-depth interview with Mike Rogers, who explains why he’s running again for the U.S. Senate and outlines his plans to fix Michigan’s future — from housing and manufacturing to AI, national security, and competing with China.

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Guests & Subjects Covered

Gavin NewsomJosh ShapiroThen DemocraticKaren SkeltonPatti Solis DoylePete ButtigiegKamala HarrissRahm Emanuels

Claims

63 claims extracted

Democratic field lacks stellar candidates

3:00

Harris's political viability questioned

7:00

Pritzker's wealth enables nomination viability

8:00

Buttigieg's nomination prospects declining

9:00

Khanna gaining attention despite attacks

11:00

Emanuel positioning as centrist alternative

12:00

Kelly unlikely to run for nomination

14:00

Newsom faces scrutiny as frontrunner

15:00

Shapiro faces dual electoral pressures

16:00

Harris must consolidate political advantages

17:00

Pritzker must improve public introduction

18:00

Buttigieg's fundraising critical to viability

19:00

AOC's political future uncertain

20:00

Khanna's momentum may be temporary

21:00

Emanuel's voter appeal uncertain

22:00

Beshear and Moore unlikely to run

23:00

Newsom's leadership credentials strong

29:13

Kelly offers stability alternative to Shapiro

30:13

Shapiro feared by Republicans

31:35

Harris's political moment has passed

33:03

Harris's repeated candidacies fatigue voters

34:06

Pritzker's wealth and Trump opposition strengthen candidacy

37:03

Wealth alone insufficient for nomination

38:42

Buttigieg lacks Black community support

40:23

Buttigieg's personal appeal underestimated

40:06

Harris more likely nominee than Buttigieg

41:03

Buttigieg's Black support deficit questioned

41:18

Buttigieg's identity and obscurity limit appeal

41:32

AOC would be top-tier if she runs

43:05

AOC appeals to key 2028 demographics

43:53

Democrats lack leadership and Khanna is temporary phenomenon

45:32

Khanna's momentum will fade

46:19

Emanuel belongs on list and elevates discourse

47:34

Emanuel's acerbic style fits current moment

48:49

Kelly unlikely to run despite appeal

49:55

Primary process will strengthen candidates

50:49

Democratic field not disappointing compared to history

51:32

Newsom and Shapiro strongest general election candidates

52:22

Democratic governance in Michigan harmed economy

56:37

Michigan voters rejecting Democratic governance

57:17

Michigan needs change to avoid decline

57:56

Rogers claims ability to fix Michigan

58:36

Rogers created 529 education savings plans

58:43

Rogers proposes housing savings plan

59:23

Rogers proposes rental payment credit reform

1:00:03

Rogers proposes tax incentives for distressed housing

1:00:43

Detroit's demolition strategy ineffective

1:02:03

Rogers uses AI for cybersecurity

1:02:18

Quantum computing will enable independent AI

1:03:33

Workers must master AI to remain competitive

1:04:03

Rogers campaign used AI in advertising

1:04:18

Federal AI regulation necessary to compete with China

1:05:24

AI dominance critical to military superiority

1:06:04

Reshoring manufacturing critical for defense

1:07:03

China's graphite monopoly threatens US capabilities

1:07:43

National debt threatens defense spending

1:09:03

Rogers cut intelligence budget by $11 billion

1:09:35

Bipartisan cooperation can solve major issues

1:11:06

Democratic opponents out of touch with Michigan workers

1:16:06

US economy showing wage growth despite challenges

1:16:48

Undocumented immigrants depress wages

1:17:28

Manufacturing reshoring creating jobs in Michigan

1:18:08

Tax refunds will boost Michigan consumer confidence

1:18:48

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