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Gavin Newsom says he's "fighting fire with fire"
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February 24, 2026
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1:38Now PlayingCalifornia Governor Gavin Newsom is widely considered a potential presidential candidate for 2028, and he hasn’t ruled out the possibility of a White House run. He sees himself as a leader of the Democratic opposition to President Donald Trump, both with his policies and his all-caps posts on social media mocking the president. At the same time, Newsom has engaged in conversations with major right-wing figures such as Steve Bannon and Ben Shapiro on his podcast, drawing criticism from members of his own party.
In this interview with "All Things Considered" host @ ailsa.chang, Newsom explains why he simultaneously attacks and embraces the political right, and argues that he’s simply “fighting fire with fire.”
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