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2:24Now PlayingWhat does a "normal" relationship with Russia look like?
Thomas Graham argues that engaging diplomatically with Russia is about managing rivalry responsibly and avoiding a larger conflict, but Bill Browder pushes back, saying Russia’s only real power is its nuclear arsenal and treating it like a great power after invading Ukraine makes no sense.
Check out the full debate in partnership with the Council on Foreign Relations.
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