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Kara and Scott break down the post-Thanksgiving spending surge, as shoppers set new records online and in stores. Then, tech bros rush to the defense of Trump's AI and Crypto czar David Sacks after a New York Times article calls out conflicts of interest. Plus, speculation heats about the next Fed Chair, and Melania launches a production company.

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Lara Naaman

Zoë Marcus

Taylor Griffin

Kate Gallagher

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