How Trump’s Fight With the Pope Backfired | Pivot

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Kara and Scott break down Trump lashing out against the Pope and right-wing media figures, and his next moves for Iran after peace talks fail. Then, Viktor Orban loses in Hungary, and his concession is a surprising win for democracy. Plus, Eric Swalwell drops out of the California governor’s race and Congress, Scott Bessent warns banks about Anthropic’s Mythos model, and Hollywood heavyweights push back on the Paramount–Warner Bros. deal.

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Then Viktor OrbanPlus Eric SwalwellCongress Scott BessentAnthropics MythosParamountWarner BrosIntro TrumpPope StraitHormuz Blockade Orban Loses

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