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Sue Gray: It was 'unbearable' working under Keir Starmer
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58:46Now PlayingOur third special summer interview is a major one, marking an exclusive interview with Keir Starmer’s ex-Chief of Staff: Sue Gray. She hasn’t spoken out since leaving No. 10 in 2024, and now sits down with Ed Balls to go through her career up to her time in Downing Street.
They begin with her childhood, what led her to the civil service, and her meteoric rise. Ed and she reminisce over their time working together under Tony Blair and Gordon Brown. Then, they discuss the moment she was thrown into the spotlight: Partygate. How does she reflect on being part of the downfall of Boris Johnson?
Finally, they discuss what happened when she joined Labour in 2023. How did she prepare for government? Could she have done more in the transition to power? How does it feel to be on the receiving end of a briefing blitz? All of this, and more, on this week’s episode…
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