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31:23Now PlayingGavin Newsom is taking a lot of heat for hosting a podcast with Charlie Kirk. When I first saw clips, I was enraged... and understandably so. But after watching the interview, I believe Gavin Newsom was doing a purposeful infiltration of Charlie Kirk's hate-space, possibly preparing for a presidential run. Everyone is saying Gavin threw trans people under the bus, but I really didn't see that... I saw Gavin deftly use language to put Charlie at ease so he could expose the lack of empathy. We need to watch Newsom cloesly, though, so see if he stands for human rights or is just angling for a spot in the middle. Maga is weak, though, and totally beatable in 2028...
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