P&P Live! Sarah Smarsh | SHE COME BY IT NATURAL with Trae Crowder

Growing up amid Kansas wheat fields and airplane factories, Sarah Smarsh witnessed firsthand the particular vulnerabilities—and strengths—of women in working poverty. Meanwhile, country songs by female artists played in the background, telling powerful stories about life, men, hard times, and surviving. In her family, she writes, “country music was foremost a language among women. It’s how we talked to each other in a place where feelings aren’t discussed.” And no one provided that language better than Dolly Parton.

Far beyond the recently resurrected “Jolene” or quintessential “9 to 5,” Parton’s songs for decades have validated women who go unheard. Infused with Smarsh’s trademark insight, intelligence, and humanity, She Come By It Natural is a sympathetic tribute to the icon Dolly Parton and—call it whatever you like—the organic feminism she embodies.

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Smarsh is in conversation with Trae Crowder, most recently known for his “Liberal Redneck” series of viral videos. His best-selling book is Liberal Redneck Manifesto: Draggin Dixie Outta the Dark, and you've also seen him on Real Time with Bill Maher, The View, NPR, WTF with Marc Maron, and more.