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1:03:48Now Playing“The Life of a Showgirl,” Taylor Swift’s 12th original studio album, is out now and finds the superstar taking stock of her relationship with fiancé Travis Kelce, while also tending to some unfinished business with unnamed enemies.
Jon Caramanica, a critic at The Times, and Joe Coscarelli, a culture reporter — both longtime Swiftologists — sat down to dissect the 12 new songs, including who they might be about and why Swift’s music lends itself such detective work in the first place.
Check out the guys’ personal rankings of Taylor’s best albums here
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