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1:01:55Now PlayingShe had a DUI published in the local newspaper. She was suicidal at the end of her drinking. She's been sober for 24 years — and now she's a Senior White House Adviser for Addiction and Recovery.
Kathryn Burgum — former First Lady of North Dakota, founder of Recovery Reinvented, and Co-Chair of the White House Great American Recovery Initiative alongside RFK Jr. — joins Aaron Prager for one of the most policy-meets-personal conversations American Recovery has ever aired.
Kathryn and Aaron also discuss:
• Alcohol addiction and blackouts
• Toxic shame and childhood trauma
• Asking for help
• 24 years of sobriety
• Faith and spiritual awakening
• Finding God after rejecting religion
• Gratitude versus victimhood
• Addiction stigma
• Service in recovery
• Peer support and lived experience
• Recovery Reinvented
• Hope after addiction
This isn't just a recovery story. It's a blueprint for what recovery looks like when it reaches the highest levels. And it started with one woman saying she needed help.
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