Why Viktor Orbán Matters to Trump and Project 2025 | Anne Applebaum & Preet Bharara
April 22, 2026
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as posted by the channelWhat does Viktor Orban’s defeat in Hungary signal and what may come next? In this live conversation, Preet Bharara is joined by Anne Applebaum, the Pulitzer Prize–winning historian, staff writer at The Atlantic, and host of Autocracy in America podcast.
They discuss Orbán’s loss and what it may tell us about the political moment; how Hungary became a model for authoritarian-curious movements, including Project 2025; why political ideas spread across borders; whether voters are simply tiring of incumbents; Trump’s weakening support over Iran; and his continued reliance on extreme language over strategy, including his failure to cultivate real opposition to the Iranian regime.
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