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UNEDITED Why We Prefer Narcissism or Psychosis to Mental Health? (RAW WA Real Convo)

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Bryn Edwards at WA Real (on YouTube):

Double rejection, double trauma model:

1st rejection BIRTH

Mother rejects and ejects child

1st trauma POV SHIFT

2nd rejection SEPARATION-INDIVIDUATION

Child rejects mother

2nd trauma SELFHOOD

During 1st phase external and internal objects are unitary

Frustration (bad breast) leads to withdrawal: narcissistic investment in introversion (Jung)

Constellated Self

Non-unitary universe with privileged object and all other objects: a schism

(Kierkegaard, Buber’s encounter I-thou: eternal thou is God PSYCHOTIC hence religion, including secular; and experience I-it, objectifying others NARCISSISTIC, hence materialism)

Selfhood is traumatic, loss of control, alienation from the world, estrangement from oneself, persecutory object

Eros and Thanatos:

Libidinal and destrudo investment, cathexis

Reflects:

Two types of mother: fully dead (Green) and partly dead (Winnicott: good enough=safe base+dead)

The dead only rejects (death only)

The good enough also accepts (death and life)

We apply these schemas to objects (both self and others) and to collectives:

Dead objects (inertial, materialistic) generate confusion, disordered, disorganized personalities

Good enough objects result in mentally sound personalities

The key difference: relationship between external and internal objects.

Still, even if objects are good enough, we cannot tell the distinction between external and internal objects

Meaning=safety

What renders reality intolerable? Fuzziness of boundaries between external and internal.

Three successive phases, attempting to create meaningful narrative via organizing and hermeneutic principles:

Psychotic hyperreflexivity (Borderline, Codependency)

expansive identity diffusion (we are the world)

+dissipated self (diminished self-affection or self-presence)

+conflation of internal and external

Narcissistic grandiosity (Existentialists, Descartes, Frankl)

deflationary identity diffusion (l’etat ce moi)

+inflated (false) self

+conflation of internal and external

Nothingness

suspended identity

+calibrated self

+boundaries (this is where I cease to be and the world/you begin)

Human history unfolds like individual psychohistory:

Evolutionary embryology and vestigial structures

Collective unconscious and archetypes

Psychotic phase (religions both divine and secular)

Narcissistic phase (the Self usurps God: Descartes's cogito observer usurped God's role and this culminated in fusing Creator with observer in QM Copenhagen interpretation)

Nothingness

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