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Shapiro vs Right-Wing Pundit: ICE, Due Process & Minneapolis Explode LIVE
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18:47Now PlayingIn this Pushing the Limits interview, Brian Shapiro and right-wing pundit Carmine Sabia clash over immigration enforcement, Fourth Amendment rights, and what’s happening in Minneapolis after the Renee Good and Alex Pretti shootings. They debate whether deportation should apply to long-term, non-violent undocumented immigrants, what “due process” should look like, and where the line is between lawful enforcement and illegal stops, ID demands, and warrantless entry.
The conversation turns heated as Shapiro accuses the Trump administration and DHS officials of spreading false narratives (“terrorist,” “assassin”), while Sabia argues Democrats also benefit politically and warns against policies that “incentivize” illegal immigration. They ultimately find rare agreement on one point: the need for a truly independent investigative body for officer-involved shootings—before misinformation hardens into “facts.”
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