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Why Fraud Calls Work: The Psychology of Trust & Authority | Sunil Bajpai | FO543 Raj Shamani
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In today's episode, we sit down with Sunil Bajpai, Chief Trust Officer at Tanla Platforms, a man who has spent decades inside government and industry trying to understand how trust actually breaks down, and how scams have quietly become a trillion dollar global industry.
We talk about how a single phone call convinced a Padma Bhushan winner to transfer crores of rupees, and why your brain gives you just 90 seconds before it stops thinking rationally. He breaks down how the scam industry runs exactly like a business, with its own procurement, manufacturing, and distribution, why many scammers are victims themselves, and why banks, telecom companies, and regulators have almost no incentive to stop it. He also shares what countries like Singapore, Indonesia, and India are actually doing to fight back, and why he believes this is one of the hardest problems in the world to solve.
You'll never pick up an unknown call the same way again, this one will change how you think about trust, fear, and how easily any of us could be next.
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About Raj Shamani
Raj Shamani is an entrepreneur and the host of the Figuring Out Podcast. He sits down with experts, athletes, celebrities, billionaires, and world leaders to break down how they actually win: money, business, mindset, relationships, and life. He's also a bestselling author, speaker, and angel investor. His work sits at the intersection of business, psychology, and human behaviour.
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