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Defend Speech Even When Your Side Hates It

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October 1, 2025

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The Reason Interview with Nick Gillespie goes deep with the artists, entrepreneurs, politicians, and visionaries who are making the 21st century more libertarian—or at least more interesting—by challenging worn-out ideas and orthodoxies.

This week’s guest host is Billy Binion, who talks with Jenin Younes, a civil liberties attorney who first gained national attention when she sued the Biden administration for pressuring social media companies to censor content it didn’t like. That case, Murthy v. Missouri, ultimately reached the Supreme Court.

A former New York City public defender, Younes is now the National Legal Director at the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, where she is preparing to sue the Trump administration. She and Binion discuss her unlikely path to civil liberties advocacy, the threats to free speech coming from both the left and the right, and why defending the First Amendment should be a universal cause—even when that speech is offensive.

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Producer: Paul Alexander

Audio Mixer: Ian Keyser

Illustration: Eddie Marshall

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The Reason InterviewNick GillespieBilly BinionJenin YounesSupreme Court ANew York CityNational Legal DirectorAmerican-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee

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