The Forceful History Of Black Resistance | Kellie Jackson | TMR
February 20, 2025
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Kellie Carter Jackson, associate professor of Africana Studies at Wellesley College, joins to discuss her recent book We Refuse: A Forceful History of Black Resistance.
Professor Kellie Carter Jackson then joins, diving right into the conception of her work “We Refuse” amid her ruminations on the anger she felt about the failure of the 2020 protests and their ultimate “wins” to create any real systemic change, with much of America’s white majority – and certainly the political class – choosing rebrandings over relinquishing any of the power and control granted by the position and privileges of whiteness, providing no new protections for the reactionary backlash that followed, as it does any period of racial reckoning in the US. Professor Carter-Jackson then looks to the particular failure of our current conceptualization of non-violent action, reflecting on the long history of radical Black leaders – including the ones we often remember as icons of non-violence – acknowledging the importance of and employing the use of force in the fight for racial equality, before stepping back to walk Sam and Emma through the devastating breadth of what forceful resistance to White Supremacy, and its violent institutions, can look like, from the devastating choices that faced her Grandmother and Great-Grandmother over their personal freedoms well after the Civil War to the stories of Margaret Garner’s escape from slavery and Carrie Johnson’s escape from a lynching mob. Expanding on this, Kellie discusses the evolution of the Black Panther Party from an organization centered around combating police brutality to efforts to expand Black Americans’ access to nutrition, healthcare, and education, proving very quickly the greater fear of a healthy, literate African American population than an armed one, before she, Sam, and Emma wrap up the interview with a focus on the central importance of joy when it comes to resistance, providing solidarity, fortification, and uplifting the most marginalized, and where the ongoing resistance to growing fascist power in the US can and must go from here.
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