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11:23Now PlayingInside the Mysterious Drone Encounter at Barksdale Air Force Base
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11:23Now PlayingJoe Lonsdale joins Shawn Ryan to confront two of the most urgent national security questions facing America today. They break down the mysterious drone swarms that buzzed Barksdale Air Force Base for a full week, and whether the incident at America's nuclear B-52 base was a foreign adversary probing our nuclear infrastructure or a psyop. Lonsdale, founder of defense tech company Epirus, then takes on the China and Taiwan question: if Beijing seizes TSMC, can America still build drones and AI weapons systems? He explains why losing Taiwan could set AI back 5 to 10 years and exposes America's hidden dependence on China across rare earths, chips, and the global drone supply chain.
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