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Trump’s Iran War: America’s Loss Is China’s Win | The David Frum Show

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On this week’s episode of “The David Frum Show,” The Atlantic’s David Frum opens with his reaction to President Trump’s shocking settlement with the IRS and his new $1.8 billion slush fund for victims of political “weaponization.”

Then, David is joined by Phillips O’Brien, a military historian and a professor of strategic studies at the University of St. Andrews, for a discussion about the fallout from the war in Iran, Russia’s stalemate with Ukraine, and Trump’s recent meeting with President Xi Jinping in China. Frum and O’Brien discuss President Trump’s lack of commitment toward Taiwan and how he has greatly diminished America’s standing with China.

Finally, David ends the episode with a discussion of “What Science Says About Astrology,” by Carlos Orsi.

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