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CNN's Abby Phillip on Jesse Jackson, coalition politics, and the media - The Fifth Column

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November 13, 2025

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CNN’s Abby Phillip joins The Fifth to talk about her new book, A Dream Deferred: Jesse Jackson and the Fight for Black Political Power. We dig into Jackson’s legacy, how language around BLM lands now, growing up between Trinidad and the U.S., and the craft of hosting real arguments on cable with panels that invite friction and stay honest.

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Hosted by journalists Kmele Foster, Michael Moynihan, and Matt Welch, The Fifth Column provides a weekly rhetorical assault on the news cycle, the people who make it, and occasionally themselves.

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