Apocalypse, Utopia, or Hype - Andy Mills of The Last Invention
December 19, 2025
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as posted by the channelAndy Mills (The Daily, Rabbit Hole, Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling; now @longviewreport's The Last Invention) joins the show to map the three tribes shaping the AI moment: doomers, accelerationists, and the “scouts” trying to prepare institutions for what comes next. We get into why the people closest to the tech sound weirdly sincere about apocalypse and utopia, why “please regulate us” is not a normal industry posture, and whether this is a bubble, a fire-level invention, or just the latest overhyped black box.
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