The Fifth Column a Podcast
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Lincoln was not an abolitionist

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Presidential historian Jon Meacham on how the modern view of Lincoln is colored by the moral standards of our time, rather than the standards of his.

Jon Meacham joined Michael Moynihan for an in-depth one-on-one on the new Fifth Column, out now.

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