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Iran: Is This Regime Change or Not? - The Fifth Column
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11:58Now PlayingIs this regime change, or just regime change or more like regime..."adjustment"? NBC News contributor Hooman Majd joins The Fifth Column to cut through the euphemisms and explain what the U.S. and Israel actually want from Iran, why “democracy” is not the real objective, and how that reality lands with Iranians on the ground.
We also get into Iran’s “ring of fire” strategy, the post–Mahsa Amini shift that Majd calls a “broken spell,” and how enforcement has moved from morality police on the street to surveillance and facial-recognition fines. Finally, we pull back to the 1979 revolution, what it promised, and why so many Iranians feel it failed on its own terms.
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Hosted by journalists Kmele Foster, Michael Moynihan, and Matt Welch, The Fifth Column provides a weekly rhetorical assault on the news cycle, the people who make it, and occasionally themselves.
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