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Trump’s Iran Blockade Gets More Absurd by the Hour #553 -The Fifth Column

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Trump’s Iran policy gets harder to explain by the minute. The guys dig into the “blockade of the blockade,” the endless talks about talks, J.D. Vance’s failed diplomacy, and the very real possibility that no one involved has the faintest idea how any of this ends.

Along the way, they also find time for Chris Matthews, Fang Fang, Kevin Spacey, Barney Frank, anti-gambling screeds, Matt Welch’s center-seat paranoia, Dr. Jesus, Trump versus the Pope, and why parts of the American right remain weirdly obsessed with Viktor Orbán. A perfectly normal episode.

(00:00) Cold Open

(00:53) Eric Swalwell

(05:57) Fang Fang and Kevin Spacey

(09:04) Gambling is for Losers

(13:01) Matt’s Center-Seat Phobia

(14:56) A Blockade of the Blockade

(19:29) Iran

(24:20) Dr. Jesus

(26:02) Trump vs. the Pope

(28:56) Orbán and the American Right

(35:34) CPAC Hungary

(45:42) J.D. Vance’s Orbán Problem

(50:48) Hungary as Ideological Fantasy

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