Michelle Goldberg on Tucker Carlson, Trump, and the New Anti-Semitism- The Fifth Column
April 23, 2026
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Michelle Goldberg, opinion columnist from The New York Times, joins The Fifth Column to talk about Iran, Tucker Carlson, anti-Semitism on the right, anti-Zionism on the left, and why political taboos can make people even more obsessed with saying the forbidden thing. The conversation also gets into Graham Platner, trans backlash, and the fight over whether “fascist” explains anything anymore.
Hosted by journalists Kmele Foster, Michael Moynihan, and Matt Welch, The Fifth Column provides a weekly rhetorical assault on the news cycle, the people who make it, and occasionally themselves.
(00:00) Cold Open
(00:23) Iran Is a Disaster
(09:03) A Blockade of the Blockade
(12:42) Venezuela and “Take the Oil”
(16:36) Europe, Saudi, and American Soft Power
(22:25) Tucker Carlson and Blaming the Jews
(27:20) James Fishback’s Young Right
(32:27) Anti-Zionism, Anti-Semitism, and Campus Speech
(40:43) Ground News
(42:53) Graham Platner and the Totenkopf Tattoo
(51:37) Agro Bernie
(54:40) What Is a Woman?
(59:32) Dave Chappelle and the Trans Trap
(01:04:21) J.K. Rowling and the Backlash Spiral
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