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Hasan Piker Joins a Long Tradition of China Apologists – The Fifth Column
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9:07Now PlayingThis is an excerpt from our Members Only episode with Frank Dikotter, one of the world's preeminent scholars on China. Watch it in full on our Substack here
Historian Frank Dikötter joins Michael Moynihan to challenge the familiar story of China’s economic miracle, from Mao-era apologism to Hasan Piker’s claim that China lifted 800 million people out of poverty.
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Hosted by journalists Kmele Foster, Michael Moynihan, and Matt Welch, The Fifth Column provides a weekly rhetorical assault on the news cycle, the people who make it, and occasionally themselves.
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