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Brené Brown Knows Why Companies Are Getting Rid of DEI | The Interview

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Brené Brown knows that many companies aren’t choosing to get rid of their D.E.I. programs. Good D.E.I. programs, according to Brown, are meritocracy programs that act as a check against favoritism and bias. However, “this is not an administration that’s a fan of meritocracy,” Brown says. She talks to Lulu Garcia-Navarro about how companies are reacting to pressure from the White House on “The Interview.”

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