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Caller CONCEDES After Her Self-Defeating Argument Gets EXPOSED | Matt Dillahunty & Eric S&S
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Michelle from New York calls in claiming to lean toward theism because the universe coming into existence without supernatural intervention would be "more miraculous" than with it. Host Matt Dillahunty expresses immediate frustration with her incoherent presentation, while co-host Eric methodically breaks down her argument. Eric demonstrates that if the universe is impressive enough to require a creator, and Michelle's God is more impressive than the universe, then her God would logically require an even greater creator - making her argument self-defeating. Michelle quickly agrees she's wrong and apologizes, leading to further discussion about the nature of her God concept. When pressed to define her deity's characteristics, she describes a "somewhat powerful" God who "sometimes intervenes." The call ends abruptly when Michelle mentions "a priori knowledge," prompting Matt to deliver a harsh post-call critique questioning her sincerity.
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