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Caller's "Utility" Argument for Religion Gets Absolutely DESTROYED | Matt Dillahunty & Aaron Adair
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December 26, 2025
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A German caller named Johannes attempts to argue that religion provides utility through community benefits and meaning, even if not literally true. Host Matt dismantles this position by pointing out these benefits can be achieved secularly without religion's baggage of discrimination and violence. When Johannes pivots to asking what prevents atheists from killing gay people without God, Matt exposes the dishonesty by noting the Bible itself commands killing gay people, and that both their answers to "why not kill" are identical: being a decent human being. Matt argues secular humanism provides superior moral foundations through empathy, cooperation, and pragmatism rather than obedience to divine commands that may themselves be immoral.
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