Was I Ever REALLY An Atheist? Deistic Caller NEEDS to Call SOMETHING God | John Gleason & Paulogia
February 3, 2026
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Tim calls in questioning whether he was ever truly an atheist, given his persistent fears about karma and cosmic punishment even during his atheist phase. The hosts push back hard on the "no true atheist" gatekeeping while exposing fundamental flaws in Tim's reasoning. John dismantles Tim's version of Pascal's Wager by pointing out he's not just choosing between atheism and one god, but between atheism and infinite possible gods with different rules. Paul introduces the "cosmic scoreboard" problem and presents alternative god scenarios—gods who care about cockroaches, intellectual achievement, or physical strength—demonstrating that Tim's belief in a morally-concerned deity is purely arbitrary without evidence. The most contentious moment comes when John highlights Tim's repeated use of "I" when describing God's rules, revealing that everything Tim attributes to divine revelation is actually self-generated intuition. Tim struggles throughout to justify why his "vibes" about God should be trusted, admits he has zero evidence for his beliefs, and closes by confessing he still can't figure out why he should be moral when it conflicts with self-interest, exposing the transactional foundation of his entire worldview.
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