He Studied CIA Mind Control and Now Believes Demons Are on His Ceiling | Aaron Adair & Susan Gerbic
March 12, 2026
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John from Arizona calls in believing MK Ultra was a "necessary evil" because 1950s military brass thought Soviets could read minds, but the conversation takes an unexpected turn when he reveals his study of CIA mind control programs led him to believe in God and the occult. John argues that Hollywood is filled with occult symbolism (citing Lady Gaga videos and George Clooney's butterfly tattoo as evidence of Project Monarch), and that he's seen demons on his ceiling after staring for 30 seconds. The hosts patiently explain pattern recognition, confirmation bias, and the physiology of the human eye, encouraging John to learn about neuroscience instead of attributing normal brain functions to the supernatural. Aaron emphasizes the importance of trying to disprove your beliefs rather than only seeking confirming evidence, while Susan celebrates how amazing our brains are at finding patterns—even when those patterns aren't really there.
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