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What Happens When America's Allies Stop Trusting the U.S.?

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What happens when America's allies no longer believe the United States will defend them?

Historian Robert Kagan argues the answer is a world with more nuclear weapons, as countries increasingly decide they must provide for their own security.

Recorded live at the Aspen Ideas Festival, Kagan joins Jake Sullivan and Jon Finer to discuss the future of American power and the international order.

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United StatesHistorian Robert KaganAspen Ideas Festival KaganJake SullivanJon Finer

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