Is MAGA believing Trump's lies about the 2020 election?

This week on The Necessary Conversation, Chad, Haley, and Mary Lou enter a brave new world in which Mary Lou said she wants to abolish ICE. Let that sink in.

🚨 ICE has now killed two people in two weeks — neither of whom were the targets of their operations. Lorenzo Salgado Araujo, a 52-year-old father with no criminal record, was shot in Houston. Then Johan Sebastián Durán Guerrero, a 25-year-old Colombian legally authorized to work in the U.S., was killed in Maine. The agent who killed Guerrero had previously been removed from a fire department for insubordination, and his ex-wife says he pointed a gun at her in the shower and has displayed racism. ICE briefly paused vehicle stops — then Trump overruled them within hours. Mom said on Wednesday she wants ICE abolished. Now Trump wants them back on the streets. We ask: does she still agree with Trump?

💣 Week 21 of Trump's war with Iran. The U.S. completed seven consecutive nights of strikes pushing deeper into Iran's interior. Two U.S. service members were killed in Jordan and one is missing in action. Iran suspended the memorandum of understanding and the Supreme Leader called Trump's signature "worthless." Trump responded by threatening to bomb Iran's power plants and bridges next week — which would be a war crime. We ask Mom if she still supports this.

📺 Trump gave a primetime speech claiming declassified documents prove China tampered with the 2020 election and manufactured illegal ballots for Biden. The problem? The actual intelligence assessment he declassified directly contradicts him, stating Beijing "did not interfere with election infrastructure." ABC, NBC, and CNN refused to air it. Fox aired it but admitted it couldn't confirm his claims. Trump demanded their broadcast licenses be revoked.

🏡 We simmer down to talk about our favorite town we've lived in.

🗳️ After firing everyone at the Election Assistance Commission last week, Trump's new DHS head Markwayne Mullin threatened states with loss of federal funding, fines, and even prison time if they refuse to hand over their voter rolls to the Trump administration. The Constitution gives states the power to run their own elections. We ask: is Trump rigging the midterms?

⚖️ Todd Blanche — Trump's personal lawyer who was only supposed to be a temporary AG — had his confirmation hearings to become permanent Attorney General. After nine months of refusing to meet with Epstein survivors, he finally spent about an hour with them under pressure. They called him "abrasive," "condescending," and "demoralizing." One survivor said there was "no credible plan" for accountability. Republicans appear ready to confirm him anyway.

💪 Pete Hegseth launched mandatory testosterone testing for all service members 30 and older, calling it "The High-T Department of War." No word on how this affects women in the military, and the Navy SEALs have been under scrutiny for testosterone and PED abuse after a recruit's death. We ask Mom and Dad: is this any different than hormone therapy for trans people?

Mom is turning. This one's a must-watch.

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