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1:08:15Now PlayingIn this episode of The Rabbit Hole, I sit down with Cathy O’Brien, author of Trance Formation of America, to discuss her extraordinary and deeply disturbing story.
Cathy has publicly described herself as a survivor of what she identifies as Project Monarch, a CIA mind-control program, and has spent decades speaking about her experiences and what she uncovered about government power, psychological manipulation, and abuse.
During our conversation, Cathy discusses her experiences, her rescue and deprogramming by her late husband Mark Phillips, and the books she has written documenting her story.
We also go beyond her personal experiences and explore some much bigger questions:
• Cathy has spoken publicly about numerous politicians—are they all corrupt, or are there exceptions?
• Is the idea of a New World Order actually coming to fruition?
• If powerful groups have historically attempted to influence populations, what might modern psychological manipulation look like?
• How much of a role could social media, algorithms, propaganda, and information overload play in influencing the masses?
• Are the techniques of manipulation changing—or are we simply seeing old methods used with new technology?
This is a difficult conversation, but it raises some fascinating questions about power, control, psychology, and how much influence governments, institutions, and technology can have over ordinary people.
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