Giuliani Proudly Proclaims “Truth Isn’t Truth” In Disastrous Interview

Rudy Giuliani just can’t seem to do his client, Donald Trump, any favors. On Sunday, Giuliani appeared on NBC’s Meet The Press where he proclaimed that “truth isn’t truth” with regards to Trump testifying to Robert Mueller. He tried to clarify his statement on Twitter, but the real problem he had during the interview wasn’t even in the part of the clip that everyone’s talking about, as Ring of Fire’s Farron Cousins explains.

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Well, it's Monday, and that means that even if you hadn't looked at the news for the last 24 hours, you could go ahead and pretty much guess that Rudy Giuliani had said something really stupid on the Sunday morning talk shows, which in fact he did. He said two really, really stupid things actually, and let's go ahead and start with the most obvious, the one that everybody is talking about. The truth isn't truth claim that Giuliani made. Here's the clip of that.

You believe this is on them, that you guys have not delayed the interviewing, delayed the negotiations at all?

No ... each time by three or four days, so we could write a letter in response. They have taken two to three weeks to get back to us. So, what I have to tell us is look, I'm not going to be rushed into having to testify, so that he gets trapped into perjury. And when you tell me that he should testify because he's going to tell the truth and he shouldn't worry, well that's silly, because it's somebody's version of the truth, not the truth.

He didn't have a conversation about ...

Truth is truth, I don't mean to go ...

No, it isn't truth. Truth isn't truth. The President of the United States says, "I didn't ...

Truth isn't truth. Mr. Mayor, do you realize what ... This is going to become a bad meme.

Don't do this to me.

Don't do truth isn't truth?

All right, so Giuliani did attempt to back track a little later on, on Twitter, saying, "What I really meant was it's the he said, she said type thing. Like this is one person's truth, this is the other person's truth. That's what I was trying to get across there."

Giuliani still, in his explanation, and further on in that actual interview, doesn't seem to understand that no, the truth does not change from person to person. The truth is the truth, and then you have a bunch of people who are lying about what actually happened, and that's what he's worried about with his client. He basically stated as much in that statement.

Trump's going to say one thing, the other guy said this, and the truth isn't always the truth. No, you're worried that your client is going to go sit down with Robert Mueller, perjure himself, which you freely admitted in that interview, and then get popped for that, because your client can't tell the truth. But as you claim, truth isn't truth, that's your defense at this point.

Truth is always the truth. I mean that is what criminal prosecutions and trials are about, which side is telling the truth. Is the defendant telling the truth by saying they didn't do the thing? Or is the prosecution telling the truth when they say that the defendant did do the thing? That is exactly what trials are all about, finding out who is telling the truth, not which truth is true, but who's telling the truth, because the truth doesn't change.

But see, while most people were focused on that part, because it is wildly stupid and corrupt and reminds you of George Orwell, by focusing only on that, you missed the part where Giuliani 100% admitted that Kushner, Don Junior and Paul Manafort committed a crime. Here is exactly, I'm going to read you this quote of what Giuliani said, this was during that same meet the press interview with Chuck Todd. Here it is.

"The meeting was originally for the purpose of getting information about Clinton. That was the original intention of the meeting. It turned out to be a meeting about another subject, and it was not pursued at all. And of course any meeting with regards to getting information on your opponent is something any candidate staff would take."