The EPA Has Completely Stopped Doing Their Job

EPA has almost completely stopped doing their job this time last year, which means that our air is getting dirtier, our water is more polluted, and our overall health is deteriorating. Ring of Fire’s Mike Papantonio and Peter Mougey discuss this issue.

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EPA has almost completely stopped doing their job this time last year, which means that our air is getting dirtier, our water is more polluted, and our overall health is deteriorating. The agency has cut way back in holding corporate polluters accountable. That's bad news for everybody in this country, except Corporate America that has pumped so much money into this to make sure that this happens.

Peter, every time I pick up ... Every week, there's another story about people being exposed to radiation because of pollution or toxins in their drinking water because of pollution, because of corporate conduct. The air that children are breathing in some of these cities are so bad that they've actually done the studies and they say well, it's coming from these three corporations. We know where it's coming from. It's called externalizing cost. Right?

Right.

A corporation ...

Passing the costs on to the taxpayer.

Yeah. A corporation doesn't want to spend the money to clean the air, to do the air cleaning before ... on top of the stack. They don't want to spend the money cleaning the toxins before they go in the river. I saw a story just this week where an entire community is now exposed to radiation because the companies that were involved wouldn't do their job. What is your take on the cutbacks that we're starting to see?

The whole story starts with Scott Pruitt who's now the head of the DEA. He's the former AG from Oklahoma that was responsible for single-handedly trying to shut down the organization that he's now running. Can you imagine? Let's get this guy that does even think-

Talk about that more. You're not just ... That's not just ... He really wanted, he really wanted to shut it down.

He filed state actions. as a state governmental representative filed state actions Oklahoma trying to minimize and shrink the DEA and said this is our fight. We want to get rid of the DEA. He tried to take over the battle and then you take that guy and have him run the DEA which is designed to protect us from , as you mentioned, the radiation, the accidental discharges, passing all this pollution, sending it down the rivers.

And so we're now surprised which we shouldn't be that the number of enforcement actions has decreased, the number of criminal fines if you take out the AG, I'm sorry, the Volkswagen fine, everything's on the way down. Why is that surprising?

We're going to be like Beijing here. The last time I was in Beijing, honestly people were having to wear masks. They have oxygen bars there to where you can go in and actually be able to breathe fresh oxygen.

I love this. Hold on, bear with me. $2.98 billion in fines in 2017. $2.98 billion in fines from the EPA and now 2.8 of those came from Volkswagen. So if you take out the Volkswagen fines they've actually done nothing.

Well actually there's been 30 to 40% fewer criminal enforcement actions here.

Exactly.

And that's just since Pruitt's taken over.

Yeah.

And so what-

This trend's going to continue.

Yeah.

It's going to get worse and worse and what you're going to see is more cleanup problems because nobody's watching. There's no watchdog.

Here's the point. What people miss, they say well this doesn't really bother me because I didn't live in that neighborhood. It passes on to taxpayers.

Sure it does.

What ends up happening is the company says, I don't really want to pay for all this. I can increase my bonus if I can keep costs down. I can make more money for the corporation if I don't do what I know I'm supposed to do because taxpayers when everything hits, taxpayers are going to have to pay for it.