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10:25Now PlayingVia America’s Lawyer: Litigation Director for the Public Justice Food Project David Muraskin joins Mike Papantonio to explain how corporate immunity would prevent COVID-stricken workers from holding their managers accountable. Also, TX attorney general Ken Paxton faces a bribery scandal alleging abuse of power. Mike Papantonio & Farron Cousins discuss more.
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A lingering question throughout the pandemic has been how businesses can protect the health and safety of employees and their families. Yet some politicians have been pushing hard for legal immunity, preventing workers from holding companies accountable. Litigation director for the public justice food project, David Muraskin joins me right now. David, first of all, thank you for the work you do. I, you know, I think we'd be in big trouble without your organization in this country, always being on the frontline in courtrooms all over this country on behalf of consumers. But I want to ask you, what's what's the story here, David? Just, just, why have senators been in support of granting immunity to businesses when so many workers are at huge personal risk?
So there really isn't a good explanation here, except that Mitch McConnell wants to use the pandemic as an excuse to, as a handout to his corporate friends. What has happened is that the Republican majority leader in the Senate has held up any stimulus bill on the condition that there'll be an immunity package tied into it. We're currently hearing that maybe he's finally backed away from that, but the reason there's been no stimulus for the last few months is he's been trying to immunize corporations from a wide range of conduct. And that, that has nothing to do with actually stimulating the economy and make sure people get back on their feet from the coronavirus.
Well, you have been fighting the creeping immunity for a long time. I mean, you, you, you know, your organization was there to fight the immunity issue for the gun industry. You fought immunity on so many fronts, but this, this is the first time that I think the public understands how ugly this right that we're giving to corporations to kill people and get away without, without any responsibility. This is the first time that the public is paying attention to it. Thank goodness they are. Thank goodness your organization is leading that charge. Millions of people, this is really the story, millions of people are hesitant to return to work out of fear of getting infected. If businesses are granted immunity, how, how is this gonna affect the workforce? I mean, why does a person go to work and then they go home and they say, I can infect my whole family? We've seen it with Tyson foods, right? We've seen it with Smithfield where the, you know, hundreds and hundreds of people infected by just going to work. So how does this affect the workforce, if, if they know there's nothing we can do about it, if daddy dies of COVID?
Yes. If you look at the meat industry to date, there have been over 1200 plants that have had outbreaks of COVID-19. And what this bill would do is it would say not only going forward, are you not allowed to recover if you get injured on the job, but looking backward, what's so shocking about this bill is it removes rights people thought they had up to this point. What it says is if you go back to December 1st, 2019, you lose your rights to be able to hold your employer accountable. More over, it ties the government's hands. What this immunity bill says is that if the government has, would normally be able to pursue an action, be it under OSHA or title seven or the ADA, as long as the employer's taking any steps that it believes that all are trying to prevent COVID-19 then you can't sue the employer. And right, what we're talking about is getting rid of bedrock principles of a liability American culture that's supposed to hold employers accountable.
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